Right now, I'm using a checklist instead of a schedule for the boys' school. This works good for the summer time especially. On today's checklist: read scriptures and do scripture memorizing, one grammar lesson, writing, 30 min. of reading with Alex and 15-30 min. of reading with Nathan, read aloud to them, math (which is drilling adding and subtraction facts and so they play math computer games and they love it), clean, and if I have time add: Spanish (Rosetta Stone they do on the computer), piano and history; help Nathan ride a 2 wheel bike and help him learn to dress (he STILL puts his shirt, shoes and pants on backwards, inside out, upside down and sideways). I decided to start a school blog, so I can journal what I'm doing with them each day.
Right now, Katie is learning to walk on 2 feet (almost there- can stand on two feet by herself, but no steps yet) and Nathan is learning to ride on 2 wheels (we took off his training wheels!).
Right now, Katie just got her first tooth, and Alex got his first loose tooth and his fist permenant tooth at the same time. (It's coming in behind his loose tooth.)
Right now, I'm about to learn the single mother lifestyle because Todd is doing programming, along with a designer neighbor and his marketing friend, on a website that is going to make us rich and famous! I even have to cook dinner like when Todd was in school...:(
Monday, June 29, 2009
Saturday, June 27, 2009
A Marriage Survey
How did you meet your spouse?
BYU- it was the first Sunday of our freshman year and it was the guys' turn to go to the girls' dorms. Visiting hours were every sunday for a couple hours. So my roommate and I made signs with arrows for the guys to come visit our room, and Todd was in a group of guys that came by to visit us.
How long have you been married? 8 1/2 years
What characteristics made you attracted to your spouse? he was very nice, intelligent (did I spell that right?) and funny and a really good person
How long were you together before getting married?
We were together all freshman year, then he went on a 2 year mission, then we were married 6 months after he got home.
How old were you and your spouse when you married? 21, a couple weeks before i turned 22.
If someone who has not met their soul mate and would like to find one, what would be your advice for them to meet their soul mate?
Make signs with arrows.
How long does it usually take you to get over an argument? I'm never mad longer than a day. Of course, I'm usually the one that is in trouble.
What is your definition of marriage?
a man and woman who have signed legal papers to be married. what makes a good marriage is different, but marriage is a legal contract.
What do you think makes a successful marriage? when the people think about eachothers' feelings and are kind to each other.
who handles the finances? Why? Mostly Todd, but I have some budgets I am in charge of now. Todd is in charge because I am bad at it. Shopping is my kind of therapy.
What is the most difficult thing about being married? sharing a bed with someone who moves all over when he sleeps!
what advice would you give about marriage? be nice.
How long did you wait to have children? 10 months
How far apart in age are your children? Alex 6--16 months---Nathan 5 1/2---4 1/2 years---Katherine almost one---????--
BYU- it was the first Sunday of our freshman year and it was the guys' turn to go to the girls' dorms. Visiting hours were every sunday for a couple hours. So my roommate and I made signs with arrows for the guys to come visit our room, and Todd was in a group of guys that came by to visit us.
How long have you been married? 8 1/2 years
What characteristics made you attracted to your spouse? he was very nice, intelligent (did I spell that right?) and funny and a really good person
How long were you together before getting married?
We were together all freshman year, then he went on a 2 year mission, then we were married 6 months after he got home.
How old were you and your spouse when you married? 21, a couple weeks before i turned 22.
If someone who has not met their soul mate and would like to find one, what would be your advice for them to meet their soul mate?
Make signs with arrows.
How long does it usually take you to get over an argument? I'm never mad longer than a day. Of course, I'm usually the one that is in trouble.
What is your definition of marriage?
a man and woman who have signed legal papers to be married. what makes a good marriage is different, but marriage is a legal contract.
What do you think makes a successful marriage? when the people think about eachothers' feelings and are kind to each other.
who handles the finances? Why? Mostly Todd, but I have some budgets I am in charge of now. Todd is in charge because I am bad at it. Shopping is my kind of therapy.
What is the most difficult thing about being married? sharing a bed with someone who moves all over when he sleeps!
what advice would you give about marriage? be nice.
How long did you wait to have children? 10 months
How far apart in age are your children? Alex 6--16 months---Nathan 5 1/2---4 1/2 years---Katherine almost one---????--
I met Nie Nie!!
I went to the Sweet Tooth Fairy for Nie's birthday and she and her husband were there! Tawnya told me that if she was there to not act like a dweeb, but I did. She is one of my heroes. Her blog is very inspirational, before and after her crash.
To read her blog, click on the "I read Nie Nie button" (pink) on the side of my blog.
To read her blog, click on the "I read Nie Nie button" (pink) on the side of my blog.
Friday, June 26, 2009
pictures and videos, finally!
So much has happened since I have been without internet and a working camera!
Highlights: going to the library, swim lessons, fencing class and going to Thanksgiving Point gardens for family activities every Monday evenings.
Library- Ryan let us use his library card for the Provo library because it is better than the spanish Fork library. We go to the juvenile non fiction section and throw in as many books as we can fit in our stoller. There's no limit to check out books. Right now we have 34 books checked out. We've gotten books about honeybees, dinosaurs, how to draw, science experiments books, and lots of math books, etc. My boys love math, and they have math books in picture book format-- puzzles, math concepts, etc. and my boys have really loved them. We've been doing lots of reading and have found good books. Thanks very much, Ryan!!
Swimming lessons: The last two weeks the boys have had swim lessons. The pool is about 3 blocks from our house.
Isn't this a beautiful view? I love the mountains here:
I love this picture of Katherine. (today while we were watching the boys at swimming)
Fencing: It's 6 weeks long, every Monday. It was for 5-10 year olds. Can you tell which one is Nathan? Yes, the smallest at the end. In the green shirt is Ryan. Ryan and Shannon were really nice and came to see the boys at fencing last Monday.
Alex about to poke Shannon's eye out (literally). Was fencing a good choice for my boys???
Nathan:
Shannon left a make up mirror in the car and the sun sorched the ceiling.
THE VIDEOS:
Highlights: going to the library, swim lessons, fencing class and going to Thanksgiving Point gardens for family activities every Monday evenings.
Library- Ryan let us use his library card for the Provo library because it is better than the spanish Fork library. We go to the juvenile non fiction section and throw in as many books as we can fit in our stoller. There's no limit to check out books. Right now we have 34 books checked out. We've gotten books about honeybees, dinosaurs, how to draw, science experiments books, and lots of math books, etc. My boys love math, and they have math books in picture book format-- puzzles, math concepts, etc. and my boys have really loved them. We've been doing lots of reading and have found good books. Thanks very much, Ryan!!
Swimming lessons: The last two weeks the boys have had swim lessons. The pool is about 3 blocks from our house.
Isn't this a beautiful view? I love the mountains here:
I love this picture of Katherine. (today while we were watching the boys at swimming)
Fencing: It's 6 weeks long, every Monday. It was for 5-10 year olds. Can you tell which one is Nathan? Yes, the smallest at the end. In the green shirt is Ryan. Ryan and Shannon were really nice and came to see the boys at fencing last Monday.
Alex about to poke Shannon's eye out (literally). Was fencing a good choice for my boys???
Nathan:
Shannon left a make up mirror in the car and the sun sorched the ceiling.
THE VIDEOS:
We go to the Thanksgiving Point gardens every Monday for family activities and last Monday was Harry Potter theme. Here is a Quidditch game, and Nathan is catching the "golden snitch". The best part, though, was right after I ended the video. Nathan and the other boy both dove for the "snitch"'s legs, and the three of them ended up in a pile. The whole thing had Todd and I laughing:
My boys have Todd and my coordination. This is a video of the boys at fencing class. I don't know what I like more, the fact that Alex spontaneously fell, Nathan not doing the side step but just walking, or Alex fixing....things....on his way back to position. I laugh out loud every time I watch this video:
Katherine at a Thanksgiving Point Monday activity:
Alex jumping off the diving board on the last day of swim lessons:
Nathan tells the swim instructor he wants to do it by himself:
Things to do: A list for kids
My internet is back!! My twitching has subsided.
I'll post pictures later (when kids are in bed), but for now, here is a list of ideas I came up with and I also found from others on things for your kids to do when they say they are bored. I printed it out and taped it on the tv so they don't watch tv or play computer (except 30 min. a day after they read for 30 min.).
I'll post pictures later (when kids are in bed), but for now, here is a list of ideas I came up with and I also found from others on things for your kids to do when they say they are bored. I printed it out and taped it on the tv so they don't watch tv or play computer (except 30 min. a day after they read for 30 min.).
Find a cool bug
read books
ride bikes
dig a hole in the backyard
play in the sprinklers
make something with stuff in the bucket upstairs
color or draw (oodles of doodles book)
play with a friend
play a board game- spongebob life, ladybug,
make a book and draw the illustrations
make a hopscotch with tape
play ball with Rocket
make a fort with chairs and blankets
play piano
play baseball
get sleeping bag and watch movie
wrestle
make treasure hunt
sewing
gardening
service
help with making dinner
listen to music
read to brother or sister
jump rope
legos
make a play and perform it for mom and dad
make a fancy dinner
make puppets and do a puppet show
handicrafts
practice instruments
chores
cooking
visit lonely neighbors
enjoy nature
swim at nancy's pool
write a letter to nana or dallin or someone or draw them a picture
think about your halloween costume
make a paper chain
sing songs to baby Katherine
Do math
play light sabers
get the chairs and make a train
play with Beary, Rexy, Ming Ming and other stuffed animals
type on the computer
throw the ball to each other
pretend you are the boxcar children
make file folder games
play red light green light
take pictures and videos
Read a book
Play with Math blocks
Write in your journal
Play the Piano/keyboard
Read the Friend Magazine
Clean up the bedroom
Write a letter
Play hopscotch
Phone a friend
Play Candyland
Play Hi-Ho Cherry-O
Play Elefun
Play Ants in the Pants
Play Chutes and Ladders
Race in the backyard
Make treats to give away
Do some laundry (They love to put the clothes and soap into the washer
and take clothes out of the dryer)
Dance to Bluebird’s favorite music
Dance to Rabbit's favorite music
Make Little Lamb laugh
Clean a bathroom (They each get a washcloth and a spray bottle filled
with vinegar water and get to clean the bathtub while I clean the rest
of the bathroom)
Weed the garden
Play baseball
Go to the slide
Go to the library
Go to the library park
Go to a new park
Jump rope
Sidewalk chalk
Play with Play-doh
Play in the sandbox
Paint fingernails
Blow bubbles
Play in the sprinkler
Play in the pool
Color in coloring books
Draw a picture
Paint a picture
Paint birdhouses
Make room art
Have a popsicle
Have an ice cream cone
Make pudding
Play Go Fish
Sunday, June 21, 2009
Happy Father's Day!
Happy Father's Day to my Dad and to Todd! I'm lucky to have the best dad and best husband in the world! I dido what my sister said about my dad: http://kerry-and-brian.blogspot.com/2009/06/happy-fathers-day.html
Friday, June 19, 2009
Neighborhood one mile run 7-3!
Neighborhood one mile fun run for kids and family!
Friday July 3 at 10am
It's free!
start: 210 S 880 W
The route will be marked with chalk arrows and balloons.
Start training now!
(I wanted to do the run in Provo on July 4, but it would be $100 for the 4 of us, and it's at 7am. Any of you who know us would know that we would sleep through it. So we're doing our own for free! Please come!)
Friday July 3 at 10am
It's free!
start: 210 S 880 W
The route will be marked with chalk arrows and balloons.
Start training now!
(I wanted to do the run in Provo on July 4, but it would be $100 for the 4 of us, and it's at 7am. Any of you who know us would know that we would sleep through it. So we're doing our own for free! Please come!)
my nemesis
To my adult children:
Let me explain why you have an inexplicable fear of the ice cream truck.
Last week the ice cream truck went down our street. Nathan didn't even ask if he could have a treat, he just said, "We don't have enough money for ice cream!" and proceeded to throw a fit that lasted... maybe an hour. I put him in the shower, but he was still throwing a fit so I put him in his room and told him to go to sleep.
So this week I started saying that the ice cream from the truck is so much more expensive than ice cream at the store... and anyways, the ice cream truck scares me. The guy looks creepy and maybe he even kidnaps kids. I kept making these remarks through the week, and today when the ice cream truck came by, Nathan came in the house.
Yes, I'll pay for your therapy.
Let me explain why you have an inexplicable fear of the ice cream truck.
Last week the ice cream truck went down our street. Nathan didn't even ask if he could have a treat, he just said, "We don't have enough money for ice cream!" and proceeded to throw a fit that lasted... maybe an hour. I put him in the shower, but he was still throwing a fit so I put him in his room and told him to go to sleep.
So this week I started saying that the ice cream from the truck is so much more expensive than ice cream at the store... and anyways, the ice cream truck scares me. The guy looks creepy and maybe he even kidnaps kids. I kept making these remarks through the week, and today when the ice cream truck came by, Nathan came in the house.
Yes, I'll pay for your therapy.
Sunday, June 14, 2009
my boys' talents
"Do you know what 100 nickels makes? $5.00! I knew that because 100 pennies is $1.00, so 100 nickels is $5.00."
"Do you know that 10,000 pennies is $100?"
This is what Nathan told me today--yes, my FIVE year old. Todd, Alex and Nathan were talking about this and other math numbers, and then ended the conversation by looking up on the internet the estimated number of atoms in the universe (which is 10 to the 80th power, by the way).
Nathan is very good at math and math reasoning. He thinks math is like a game.
Alex is also good at math, and likes it very much. There are things that Alex knows that Nathan doesn't, and vise versa.
But Alex really shines when it comes to reading and building things, or spatial intelligence. When we got Katie's bouncy seat, it didn't come with instructions, just a bunch of rods, and I was dreading trying to figure it out. One morning I came downstairs and Alex had put the whole thing together by himself. The other day Alex asked Todd to fix his Star Wars space ship toy thing, and Todd couldn't figure it out. The next day, Alex had put it together himself and showed Todd how he did it. On Friday I was helping Nathan put together an art craft, and Alex showed me I had it wrong, that one part was upside down. SIX years old-Genius!
"Do you know that 10,000 pennies is $100?"
This is what Nathan told me today--yes, my FIVE year old. Todd, Alex and Nathan were talking about this and other math numbers, and then ended the conversation by looking up on the internet the estimated number of atoms in the universe (which is 10 to the 80th power, by the way).
Nathan is very good at math and math reasoning. He thinks math is like a game.
Alex is also good at math, and likes it very much. There are things that Alex knows that Nathan doesn't, and vise versa.
But Alex really shines when it comes to reading and building things, or spatial intelligence. When we got Katie's bouncy seat, it didn't come with instructions, just a bunch of rods, and I was dreading trying to figure it out. One morning I came downstairs and Alex had put the whole thing together by himself. The other day Alex asked Todd to fix his Star Wars space ship toy thing, and Todd couldn't figure it out. The next day, Alex had put it together himself and showed Todd how he did it. On Friday I was helping Nathan put together an art craft, and Alex showed me I had it wrong, that one part was upside down. SIX years old-Genius!
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
soft baby hands
I just put my kids to bed.
The house is quiet.
Aaaaaa, What joy.
I was petting Katie's soft little hand to put her to sleep, when I thought of a few things I needed to do...
then I stopped.
I'll never have that little soft baby hand to touch again when she grows, she's a baby for so little time. And then before I know it she'll be out on her own. So I stopped thinking about everything else, and focused on the moment: how soft her little baby hand is, her fluffy soft hair, her cute diaper bum sticking up in the air with her little puggy legs tucked underneath.
She is growing so fast. It's fun to see how much she is learning and interacting, more and more every day. Tonight the boys were trying to read her bedtime books, but she just tried to eat and destroy the books (they are board books-- I know better than to give Destructo-Baby paper books!). When she was on my lap reading books, she took my hand, turned it over and grabbed my finger and pointed to the pictures like I do. What a smart baby! And when I grab her hand, she puts out her little pointer finger and I use it to point to pictures.
She is starting to try and say words. When she sees a dog she says "do...", and say "mo..." for more, and sometimes she'll try and say a word we try and get her to repeat. I taught her the baby signs for "more" and "music", and she used and understood them the first time I taught them to her! I play my flute for her and she likes it. She likes songs like "patty cake" and will do all the actions-- even if we don't. She's starting to stand by herself- but no steps yet. She crawls all over the place, and walks along all the furniture.
Such a sweet girl!
(Todd gets paid on Monday and I will get new batteries for the camera! I miss putting pictures on the blog!)
The house is quiet.
Aaaaaa, What joy.
I was petting Katie's soft little hand to put her to sleep, when I thought of a few things I needed to do...
then I stopped.
I'll never have that little soft baby hand to touch again when she grows, she's a baby for so little time. And then before I know it she'll be out on her own. So I stopped thinking about everything else, and focused on the moment: how soft her little baby hand is, her fluffy soft hair, her cute diaper bum sticking up in the air with her little puggy legs tucked underneath.
She is growing so fast. It's fun to see how much she is learning and interacting, more and more every day. Tonight the boys were trying to read her bedtime books, but she just tried to eat and destroy the books (they are board books-- I know better than to give Destructo-Baby paper books!). When she was on my lap reading books, she took my hand, turned it over and grabbed my finger and pointed to the pictures like I do. What a smart baby! And when I grab her hand, she puts out her little pointer finger and I use it to point to pictures.
She is starting to try and say words. When she sees a dog she says "do...", and say "mo..." for more, and sometimes she'll try and say a word we try and get her to repeat. I taught her the baby signs for "more" and "music", and she used and understood them the first time I taught them to her! I play my flute for her and she likes it. She likes songs like "patty cake" and will do all the actions-- even if we don't. She's starting to stand by herself- but no steps yet. She crawls all over the place, and walks along all the furniture.
Such a sweet girl!
(Todd gets paid on Monday and I will get new batteries for the camera! I miss putting pictures on the blog!)
Tuesday, June 9, 2009
My list
Dear Todd,
There are so many things I want to change about myself! I made a list of most pressing issues to pray and work on. Will you help me?
1. self discipline, responsibility, following schedules, getting dressed before 6pm and not having the boys ask where we are going when I tell them to get dressed, etc.
I need to have a reward for me and the kids when we follow our schedule. What should that be?
2. Creating a family/ home of peace and love and where the Spirit is always present and where the kids always feel safe. (I need to work on getting angry and frustrated. We talked about Mommy and Daddy time outs.) I really want to make this one a high priority.
3. Get off my lazy butt and do stuff for the kids! *See article below marked #3
4. Get off my lazy butt and play with the kids on THEIR time-- when they ask, not when it's convenient for me. To a child love is spelled T-I-M-E.
5. Say "yes" more often. *See article below marked #5
6. Be happy, optomistic, and stop complaining constantly
7. go on dates together, and with kids consistantly
8. Have set rules and consequences; be better at following through and being consistent; get kids to be obedient (they're good, but could be better)
9. Should we have another baby? When? Adopt or natural? Should we be done? Will Katie be ok without a sister? Will she be ok without a sibling her age? Can we handle the stress of another one? I want to have another so that it's longer until we are left without children in the house, and because I don't want to feel like I'm just getting this parenting thing down, and all my children are gone! What should we do? Please tell me! :)
10. I don't have a #10, but I can't leave it at #9! That's not even!
Oh yea, what curriculum should we use for school next year! It's so overwhelming!! (but fun and exciting!) Thanks for reading books and going to the conference with me so you can help me.
Article #3: Our “Refusing to Help Each Other” Problem (blog post http://teachingselfgovernment.com/?p=316)
Recently we have found another great use for the “bean counter” motivational system in our home. A couple of weeks ago I noticed a behavior which was working against our family mission and vision. And, the behavior was not isolated to one person. The problem behavior was spreading, like a disease, through the whole family. The feelings of frustration and contention were definitely on the rise in our home. The culprit was selfishness and the problem looked like this.
Youngest son says, “Dad, will you get me a drink of water?”
Dad says, “Porter, you know how to get your own drink. You can get it yourself.” Following this response, the son becomes frustrated and chooses to whine. The whinny behavior earns negative consequences and the son doesn’t get a drink because he is now busy learning how to accept a no answer.
Why did Dad give Porter the response he gave? There could have been many reasons. Maybe Dad was in the middle of something and didn’t want to be bothered with serving drinks. Maybe Dad was trying to encourage his young son to be more self-sufficient. Or maybe Dad just didn’t want to get up off the couch right then because he was feeling comfortable on the couch.
Don’t misunderstand me. Children should be given no answers sometimes. If a parent can’t tell their child no, then the child will rule the home and the parent child relationship will be strained. I don’t agree with being a parent who pampers their child’s every desire. However, constantly being too busy or giving a message that you don’t want to get off the couch to help a child with a need gives the child anxiety and a feeling similar to abandonment. Ignoring the needs of a child just creates more problems for the parent to handle in the long run.
What could Porter have been thinking? He could know things that Dad doesn’t understand. Porter could have been thinking that the cups in the dishwasher are dirty and so he would have to climb up on the counter to get a clean cup. This could be a concern to him because he has been told multiple times that he should not climb on the counter. Most importantly, he felt he had a need and might have felt that Dad didn’t think the need was very important. No parent would ever want their child to think this, but how often do we take the time to understand what they might be thinking?
Another example of our problem is as follows:
Oldest daughter is making lunch for her siblings. She looks at older brother and says, “Quin, please get me the jelly out of the fridge.”
Quin doesn’t even look at her while he walks past the fridge and says, “I’ve got to go feed the dog.” After this short statement he walks out of the house.
Why would Quin give a response like this? Maybe he forgot to feed the dog earlier that day, and just remembered; leaving him to feel it was really important right then. Or, maybe he just didn’t want to bother doing something for his sister right then.
What could Paije, the oldest daughter, have been thinking with this kind of response from her brother? She could feel unappreciated for making lunch. After all, she was making food for all the children, not just herself. She could feel angry at her brother for not taking her request seriously and choose to become angry herself. The list could go on.
These two experiences are examples of many similar experiences which started happening in our home over a couple of weeks. I can’t say I was exempt from being selfish either. In fact, I think that my husband and I were the ones who started the chain of selfish communications. For a few weeks we were really busy at our house. When the parents get really busy, they have a tendency to get really selfish with their time. When parents get selfish, it is only a matter of time before the children are also treating each other and the parents selfishly.
Our Solution
By the time our regular Sunday Family Meeting came around, I knew our “refusing to help each other” problem had to be my topic for family discussion. During the meeting I brought up the topic. We all saw how not serving other family members when they ask for help was in conflict with sections of our family mission statement which state, “…We spread love and happiness to others…………..We have patience and wisdom in our relationship…” We knew the Peck family had recently adopted some pretty selfish habits and our habits were affecting our family relationships.
We all contributed ideas of what we could do to motivate our family to want to serve each other when asked and to be less selfish. We discussed earning extra chores for not helping others when asked, because the requests were like instructions. Ultimately though, we decided that our family needed a positive consequence, or motivation, to really make a change of heart and get a feeling of working together on the project. All of the sudden the “bean counter” game came into my mind.
I suggested we get a quart jar and enough beans to fill the jar. The system goes like this. Every time a person asks someone in the family to do something and the person asked says “OK” and does what was requested the person giving service gets to put a bean in the jar. The whole family serves each other and adds beans until the jar is full. When the jar is full our family gets to go ice skating. We were all a little bit shocked at how often we ask each other to do things for us. We even started asking someone else to put a bean in the jar for us. This meant that the person putting the bean in the jar got to put two beans in because they were helping someone else get a bean in the jar. The jar is filling up quickly. All the members of the Peck family, parents included, have started stopping what they are doing to help each other all the time now. I expect we will be going ice skating really soon. We won’t use the jar any more for a while after our ice skating trip, because I have found games like this can’t usually go on for too long or they loose their motivational value, and the family forgets about them. But, our family has already had a great reminder about how selfishness can ruin the feeling of unity in the home. Thanks to the beans, we are much more conscious about the way we respond when someone asks for help. We have successfully played “bean counter” before to motivate secret service, and to motivate the four basic skills and school achievements, but this time we used it a little bit differently; and this time was just as motivating.
Don’t forget to use positive consequences as motivations too. Sometimes the positive focus is better than the negative. Maybe beans could help you improve a family behavior sometime too. I hope so.
*Article #5: How to say yes (blog post http://www.mommycoddle.com/2009/06/how-to-say-yes.html)
I walked in to the guest room a few weeks ago to find Emma on her knees, on the floor, hunched over something. She was obviously working quietly and intently, and secretively. I stepped closer and she looked up.
In front of her on the floor was a whole battery of off-limits items from my craft stash--sewing scissors, expensive yarn, scraps of fabric, rubber stamp pads, good heavy papers and permanent markers.
I felt my blood boil. "EMMA!!! WHAT are you doing??! These are my things!"
"I had this idea.", she said with a defeated sigh.
I was still upset. This had been happening a lot lately. The sneaking off while I was occupied elsewhere in the house. The getting in to things that normally require supervision. Craft stuff. Food from the pantry. Gardening tools. Things that stay inside the house being dragged outside.
It was making me crazy. Didn't my children understand any boundaries? Didn't they realize they couldn't get into anything and everything, whenever they pleased?
I questioned her further, "Why didn't you just ask?"
"Because I knew you'd say no. You always say no."
And there it was. I was confronted with the truth. Or at least what felt like the truth to her.
Now obviously, I don't say no all the time. But sometimes, I think my pile of "no's" far outweighs my pile of "yes". In fact it could easily bury the pile of yes. Sometimes the no's come from exhaustion--the not wanting to make another mess, the not wanting to break open all the paints or get out the sewing machine, the not wanting to fill another sink with dishes, the not wanting to hike to the stream and carry home dirty toddlers and ten pounds of streambed in a metal bucket.
And sometimes, I catch myself saying no because I think that's what I'm supposed to say. It's what parents do. That somehow I'm teaching them some life skill--to wait, to be patient, that you don't always get your way. And then I find myself thinking, "Now wait. Why did I say no to that?"
And I also realized in some odd way, my barrage of 'no's' was driving Emma to deception. She had ideas and plans that were burning inside of her. Things she had to try. Experiments she had to concoct. Recipes she had to make. She needed to bring these ideas in her head to fruition. And sometimes, the supplies she had at her disposal--some watercolor paints, construction paper, a pair of tiny right-handed scissors, just wouldn't cut it. And more often than not, when she brought her plans before the queen of the house, she was shot down before she even got started.
You've heard me say it a hundred times before, this job of parenting is a continual learning process. And once again, I've learned a lesson. I'm not saying all my no's have magically become a yes--I'm not planning to let Emma float Elizabeth down the stream on an inner tube anytime soon. However, my no doesn't come as quickly these days.
I don't want her to give up on me. To think she has me figured out. To decide that I'm always a no. I want to say yes sometimes. More times. I want to surprise her. I want to follow through on a few of those crazy ideas and see just where that idea takes us. I want her to tell me everything because she knows I'll be just as excited and curious and creative as she is.
I'll say no, when a no is what's really called for. But more than that, I want to be a yes.
There are so many things I want to change about myself! I made a list of most pressing issues to pray and work on. Will you help me?
1. self discipline, responsibility, following schedules, getting dressed before 6pm and not having the boys ask where we are going when I tell them to get dressed, etc.
I need to have a reward for me and the kids when we follow our schedule. What should that be?
2. Creating a family/ home of peace and love and where the Spirit is always present and where the kids always feel safe. (I need to work on getting angry and frustrated. We talked about Mommy and Daddy time outs.) I really want to make this one a high priority.
3. Get off my lazy butt and do stuff for the kids! *See article below marked #3
4. Get off my lazy butt and play with the kids on THEIR time-- when they ask, not when it's convenient for me. To a child love is spelled T-I-M-E.
5. Say "yes" more often. *See article below marked #5
6. Be happy, optomistic, and stop complaining constantly
7. go on dates together, and with kids consistantly
8. Have set rules and consequences; be better at following through and being consistent; get kids to be obedient (they're good, but could be better)
9. Should we have another baby? When? Adopt or natural? Should we be done? Will Katie be ok without a sister? Will she be ok without a sibling her age? Can we handle the stress of another one? I want to have another so that it's longer until we are left without children in the house, and because I don't want to feel like I'm just getting this parenting thing down, and all my children are gone! What should we do? Please tell me! :)
10. I don't have a #10, but I can't leave it at #9! That's not even!
Oh yea, what curriculum should we use for school next year! It's so overwhelming!! (but fun and exciting!) Thanks for reading books and going to the conference with me so you can help me.
Article #3: Our “Refusing to Help Each Other” Problem (blog post http://teachingselfgovernment.com/?p=316)
Recently we have found another great use for the “bean counter” motivational system in our home. A couple of weeks ago I noticed a behavior which was working against our family mission and vision. And, the behavior was not isolated to one person. The problem behavior was spreading, like a disease, through the whole family. The feelings of frustration and contention were definitely on the rise in our home. The culprit was selfishness and the problem looked like this.
Youngest son says, “Dad, will you get me a drink of water?”
Dad says, “Porter, you know how to get your own drink. You can get it yourself.” Following this response, the son becomes frustrated and chooses to whine. The whinny behavior earns negative consequences and the son doesn’t get a drink because he is now busy learning how to accept a no answer.
Why did Dad give Porter the response he gave? There could have been many reasons. Maybe Dad was in the middle of something and didn’t want to be bothered with serving drinks. Maybe Dad was trying to encourage his young son to be more self-sufficient. Or maybe Dad just didn’t want to get up off the couch right then because he was feeling comfortable on the couch.
Don’t misunderstand me. Children should be given no answers sometimes. If a parent can’t tell their child no, then the child will rule the home and the parent child relationship will be strained. I don’t agree with being a parent who pampers their child’s every desire. However, constantly being too busy or giving a message that you don’t want to get off the couch to help a child with a need gives the child anxiety and a feeling similar to abandonment. Ignoring the needs of a child just creates more problems for the parent to handle in the long run.
What could Porter have been thinking? He could know things that Dad doesn’t understand. Porter could have been thinking that the cups in the dishwasher are dirty and so he would have to climb up on the counter to get a clean cup. This could be a concern to him because he has been told multiple times that he should not climb on the counter. Most importantly, he felt he had a need and might have felt that Dad didn’t think the need was very important. No parent would ever want their child to think this, but how often do we take the time to understand what they might be thinking?
Another example of our problem is as follows:
Oldest daughter is making lunch for her siblings. She looks at older brother and says, “Quin, please get me the jelly out of the fridge.”
Quin doesn’t even look at her while he walks past the fridge and says, “I’ve got to go feed the dog.” After this short statement he walks out of the house.
Why would Quin give a response like this? Maybe he forgot to feed the dog earlier that day, and just remembered; leaving him to feel it was really important right then. Or, maybe he just didn’t want to bother doing something for his sister right then.
What could Paije, the oldest daughter, have been thinking with this kind of response from her brother? She could feel unappreciated for making lunch. After all, she was making food for all the children, not just herself. She could feel angry at her brother for not taking her request seriously and choose to become angry herself. The list could go on.
These two experiences are examples of many similar experiences which started happening in our home over a couple of weeks. I can’t say I was exempt from being selfish either. In fact, I think that my husband and I were the ones who started the chain of selfish communications. For a few weeks we were really busy at our house. When the parents get really busy, they have a tendency to get really selfish with their time. When parents get selfish, it is only a matter of time before the children are also treating each other and the parents selfishly.
Our Solution
By the time our regular Sunday Family Meeting came around, I knew our “refusing to help each other” problem had to be my topic for family discussion. During the meeting I brought up the topic. We all saw how not serving other family members when they ask for help was in conflict with sections of our family mission statement which state, “…We spread love and happiness to others…………..We have patience and wisdom in our relationship…” We knew the Peck family had recently adopted some pretty selfish habits and our habits were affecting our family relationships.
We all contributed ideas of what we could do to motivate our family to want to serve each other when asked and to be less selfish. We discussed earning extra chores for not helping others when asked, because the requests were like instructions. Ultimately though, we decided that our family needed a positive consequence, or motivation, to really make a change of heart and get a feeling of working together on the project. All of the sudden the “bean counter” game came into my mind.
I suggested we get a quart jar and enough beans to fill the jar. The system goes like this. Every time a person asks someone in the family to do something and the person asked says “OK” and does what was requested the person giving service gets to put a bean in the jar. The whole family serves each other and adds beans until the jar is full. When the jar is full our family gets to go ice skating. We were all a little bit shocked at how often we ask each other to do things for us. We even started asking someone else to put a bean in the jar for us. This meant that the person putting the bean in the jar got to put two beans in because they were helping someone else get a bean in the jar. The jar is filling up quickly. All the members of the Peck family, parents included, have started stopping what they are doing to help each other all the time now. I expect we will be going ice skating really soon. We won’t use the jar any more for a while after our ice skating trip, because I have found games like this can’t usually go on for too long or they loose their motivational value, and the family forgets about them. But, our family has already had a great reminder about how selfishness can ruin the feeling of unity in the home. Thanks to the beans, we are much more conscious about the way we respond when someone asks for help. We have successfully played “bean counter” before to motivate secret service, and to motivate the four basic skills and school achievements, but this time we used it a little bit differently; and this time was just as motivating.
Don’t forget to use positive consequences as motivations too. Sometimes the positive focus is better than the negative. Maybe beans could help you improve a family behavior sometime too. I hope so.
*Article #5: How to say yes (blog post http://www.mommycoddle.com/2009/06/how-to-say-yes.html)
I walked in to the guest room a few weeks ago to find Emma on her knees, on the floor, hunched over something. She was obviously working quietly and intently, and secretively. I stepped closer and she looked up.
In front of her on the floor was a whole battery of off-limits items from my craft stash--sewing scissors, expensive yarn, scraps of fabric, rubber stamp pads, good heavy papers and permanent markers.
I felt my blood boil. "EMMA!!! WHAT are you doing??! These are my things!"
"I had this idea.", she said with a defeated sigh.
I was still upset. This had been happening a lot lately. The sneaking off while I was occupied elsewhere in the house. The getting in to things that normally require supervision. Craft stuff. Food from the pantry. Gardening tools. Things that stay inside the house being dragged outside.
It was making me crazy. Didn't my children understand any boundaries? Didn't they realize they couldn't get into anything and everything, whenever they pleased?
I questioned her further, "Why didn't you just ask?"
"Because I knew you'd say no. You always say no."
And there it was. I was confronted with the truth. Or at least what felt like the truth to her.
Now obviously, I don't say no all the time. But sometimes, I think my pile of "no's" far outweighs my pile of "yes". In fact it could easily bury the pile of yes. Sometimes the no's come from exhaustion--the not wanting to make another mess, the not wanting to break open all the paints or get out the sewing machine, the not wanting to fill another sink with dishes, the not wanting to hike to the stream and carry home dirty toddlers and ten pounds of streambed in a metal bucket.
And sometimes, I catch myself saying no because I think that's what I'm supposed to say. It's what parents do. That somehow I'm teaching them some life skill--to wait, to be patient, that you don't always get your way. And then I find myself thinking, "Now wait. Why did I say no to that?"
And I also realized in some odd way, my barrage of 'no's' was driving Emma to deception. She had ideas and plans that were burning inside of her. Things she had to try. Experiments she had to concoct. Recipes she had to make. She needed to bring these ideas in her head to fruition. And sometimes, the supplies she had at her disposal--some watercolor paints, construction paper, a pair of tiny right-handed scissors, just wouldn't cut it. And more often than not, when she brought her plans before the queen of the house, she was shot down before she even got started.
You've heard me say it a hundred times before, this job of parenting is a continual learning process. And once again, I've learned a lesson. I'm not saying all my no's have magically become a yes--I'm not planning to let Emma float Elizabeth down the stream on an inner tube anytime soon. However, my no doesn't come as quickly these days.
I don't want her to give up on me. To think she has me figured out. To decide that I'm always a no. I want to say yes sometimes. More times. I want to surprise her. I want to follow through on a few of those crazy ideas and see just where that idea takes us. I want her to tell me everything because she knows I'll be just as excited and curious and creative as she is.
I'll say no, when a no is what's really called for. But more than that, I want to be a yes.
Monday, June 8, 2009
Carlson Family Rules and Standards
Todd and I made a list of our family's rules and standards tonight. We came up with 24 rules. You think that's too much? This is hard! You don't want to be too strict... or do you? You want them to make mistakes while they are in the home, but how young, and in what way? Where do you draw the line for standards? Modesty? Sleeves or sleeveless? Why? (because they will ask that) How do you teach them to govern themselves before they leave the house?
A neighbor told me that the boys had climbed out the loft window onto the roof above the porch. Maybe that should be rule #1: no climbing out windows onto the roof.
Update: Some answers!
http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e36d5f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=a0c8991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&hideNav=1&contentLocale=0
AND
http://lds.org/Static%20Files/PDF/Manuals/ForTheStrengthOfYouth_36550_eng.pdf
A neighbor told me that the boys had climbed out the loft window onto the roof above the porch. Maybe that should be rule #1: no climbing out windows onto the roof.
Update: Some answers!
http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e36d5f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=a0c8991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&hideNav=1&contentLocale=0
AND
http://lds.org/Static%20Files/PDF/Manuals/ForTheStrengthOfYouth_36550_eng.pdf
Sunday, June 7, 2009
Notes from the homeschool conference
Susan Wise Bauer:
-checklist of subjects instead of schedules
-education as part of life, not as something to be gotten over with; create life long learner
-make books central- books as treats and rewards, go to the library
-get control of "screen time"- teach to use in moderation; token system
-off duty time for mom, alone time
-focus on individual interests
-solutions for meltdowns: sandwich, nap, shower
-graduate debt free from college- don't be seduced by name brand colleges, don't let kids get in debt
-don't let your kids go to college before they are emotionally mature and ready
-stop worrying about everything. kids will think you're mad. smile at your kids.
-praise your kids daily praise quotient
-act on your gut feeling. don't expect your kids to tell you if something is not right
-sing, or act happy so kids know everything is ok
Goff:
www.princessacademies.com
-teach kids to shop thriftly and how to do food storage, finances, practical things
-teach work ethic
-be inspired by books (Queen Victoria wrote in her journal, make your own journal)
- learn about ancestors- william bradford
-we don't know what our kids are going to be up against, give them the skills to face challenges
-prepare mind, hands and heart
-give them a small snippet to get them curious to want to learn more
-read about inspiring men and women
Amott:
http://www.tjed.org/
lemi.org
amlesideonline.org
michaelolaf.net
let child help pick curriculum
unit studies- theme (penguins- math, science, etc about penguins)
lap book and notebooks- keep a notebook about a theme
fiveinarow.com read a book and do studies based on that book in each subject
books- childhood of famous americans series
danika amott mommadana2@gmail.com
Peck:
http://www.teachingselfgovernment.com/
stop and think of a plan before discipline
-governing your own behaviors
-don't label our child- be careful
-say say "you've chosen" or "you've earned" insted of dishing out punishments
self-government is being able to determine cause and effet of any situation, possess the knowledge to control what happens to them
-make a list of things to change and work on them
Family government:
1. family activities- at least once a week. plan ahead to build anticipation
2. acceptance- make home safest place to make mistakes. "I'm glad you did that here with me instead of..."
3. love and mercy- pray to love and have spirit of love when you don't feel it and are mad; mercy instead of justice sometimes
4. trust- believe that every person was born with a desire to do good; give them the benefit of the doubt that they had good intentions; opposite of trust is force
-not raising perfect kids, raising kids to have solid relationships with God and family and know their direction in life
5. family economy- work is an antidote to bad character- do chores as consequences
6. family meetings- have a time limit (20 min.), take turns leading, don't point fingers "I've noticed that...."
seek first to understand and then be understood
problem solving exercises- sodas- talk about what if situations before there is a problem
4 basic rules_
follow instructions, accepting a no answer, accepting consequences and disagreeing appropriately
praise- praise 6-10 times for 1 criticism
preteach-teach before the situation come up
corrective teaching- speak with kindness and love; describing instead of reacting (I noticed your room is messy. I asked you to clean it but you are playing instead.... What you should have done was.... Since you chose.... Let's practice follow instructions 3 times.... Now I know you are great at follow directions! Next time I know you'll do great!"
-Sometimes a hug is needed
Susan Wise Bauer:
-where is it that I am trying to go? goal of education? To know what he/she thinks and believes and can defend it with words; goal- to be able to find info, evaluate it and form an opinion
-some things not fun, but self discipline and maturity is the ability to do something immediately difficult to do something pleasureable later
elementary grades- literature- ask what happened instead of why. memorizing and drill not critical thinking at this stage. it's ok to memorize something they don't understand
K-5 repetition; starting 5th or 6th grade change to critical thinking; wants to know why they are doing it; allow disagreement; may i make an appeal means i really want to sit down and discuss it
Allison Smith:
ways to teach:
text outlines
unit studies
internet
co-ops
community classes
local businesses and apprenticeships
field trips to local businesses
performances and exhibits
college classes
board games
music to help memorize (Singin' Smart)
summer camps
Time-- it's when THEY need it
Bartlett:
http://www.havekids-willtravel.com/
http://www.jewettstreet.com/
5lessons.com
thewinonline.com
homeexchange.com
yourgameguru.com
-checklist of subjects instead of schedules
-education as part of life, not as something to be gotten over with; create life long learner
-make books central- books as treats and rewards, go to the library
-get control of "screen time"- teach to use in moderation; token system
-off duty time for mom, alone time
-focus on individual interests
-solutions for meltdowns: sandwich, nap, shower
-graduate debt free from college- don't be seduced by name brand colleges, don't let kids get in debt
-don't let your kids go to college before they are emotionally mature and ready
-stop worrying about everything. kids will think you're mad. smile at your kids.
-praise your kids daily praise quotient
-act on your gut feeling. don't expect your kids to tell you if something is not right
-sing, or act happy so kids know everything is ok
Goff:
www.princessacademies.com
-teach kids to shop thriftly and how to do food storage, finances, practical things
-teach work ethic
-be inspired by books (Queen Victoria wrote in her journal, make your own journal)
- learn about ancestors- william bradford
-we don't know what our kids are going to be up against, give them the skills to face challenges
-prepare mind, hands and heart
-give them a small snippet to get them curious to want to learn more
-read about inspiring men and women
Amott:
http://www.tjed.org/
lemi.org
amlesideonline.org
michaelolaf.net
let child help pick curriculum
unit studies- theme (penguins- math, science, etc about penguins)
lap book and notebooks- keep a notebook about a theme
fiveinarow.com read a book and do studies based on that book in each subject
books- childhood of famous americans series
danika amott mommadana2@gmail.com
Peck:
http://www.teachingselfgovernment.com/
stop and think of a plan before discipline
-governing your own behaviors
-don't label our child- be careful
-say say "you've chosen" or "you've earned" insted of dishing out punishments
self-government is being able to determine cause and effet of any situation, possess the knowledge to control what happens to them
-make a list of things to change and work on them
Family government:
1. family activities- at least once a week. plan ahead to build anticipation
2. acceptance- make home safest place to make mistakes. "I'm glad you did that here with me instead of..."
3. love and mercy- pray to love and have spirit of love when you don't feel it and are mad; mercy instead of justice sometimes
4. trust- believe that every person was born with a desire to do good; give them the benefit of the doubt that they had good intentions; opposite of trust is force
-not raising perfect kids, raising kids to have solid relationships with God and family and know their direction in life
5. family economy- work is an antidote to bad character- do chores as consequences
6. family meetings- have a time limit (20 min.), take turns leading, don't point fingers "I've noticed that...."
seek first to understand and then be understood
problem solving exercises- sodas- talk about what if situations before there is a problem
4 basic rules_
follow instructions, accepting a no answer, accepting consequences and disagreeing appropriately
praise- praise 6-10 times for 1 criticism
preteach-teach before the situation come up
corrective teaching- speak with kindness and love; describing instead of reacting (I noticed your room is messy. I asked you to clean it but you are playing instead.... What you should have done was.... Since you chose.... Let's practice follow instructions 3 times.... Now I know you are great at follow directions! Next time I know you'll do great!"
-Sometimes a hug is needed
Susan Wise Bauer:
-where is it that I am trying to go? goal of education? To know what he/she thinks and believes and can defend it with words; goal- to be able to find info, evaluate it and form an opinion
-some things not fun, but self discipline and maturity is the ability to do something immediately difficult to do something pleasureable later
elementary grades- literature- ask what happened instead of why. memorizing and drill not critical thinking at this stage. it's ok to memorize something they don't understand
K-5 repetition; starting 5th or 6th grade change to critical thinking; wants to know why they are doing it; allow disagreement; may i make an appeal means i really want to sit down and discuss it
Allison Smith:
ways to teach:
text outlines
unit studies
internet
co-ops
community classes
local businesses and apprenticeships
field trips to local businesses
performances and exhibits
college classes
board games
music to help memorize (Singin' Smart)
summer camps
Time-- it's when THEY need it
Bartlett:
http://www.havekids-willtravel.com/
http://www.jewettstreet.com/
5lessons.com
thewinonline.com
homeexchange.com
yourgameguru.com
Saturday, June 6, 2009
Rocket and homeschooling
Well, Rocket did his Dock Dogs competition on Friday, and in the words of Todd:
new collar $10.49
new Rabies tag $5
Dock Dogs registration $20
water toy to jump after $5
3rd place medal ...priceless
Rocket was 3rd in his amateur division (out of 5 dogs:) but it was fun, and the boys have been taking turns wearing the medal around their necks since Friday. (Sorry, no pictures. camera is out of batteries).
Rocket jumped 13 feet. A dog there jumped 26 feet (he's 2nd or 3rd world champion) and the world record is 28 feet. It was fun seeing the dogs flying through the air. The dogs (even Rocket) all loved it. While they were waiting for their turns they would whine and prance around, and when it was their turn they would RUN up the steps. We were the only locals. All the other dogs had come from Las Vegas and other states. When Alex and Nathan are 7, they can be the dog handler and throw the ball. We just have to wait until it comes back to Utah!
_______________________________________________
Today Todd and I went to a homeschooling conference in Salt Lake all day and Todd's brother and his wife watched all 3 kids. Katie took a bottle and was happy! Todd made it known that he was going only because it was important to me, but he was pleasantly suprised and actually really like it! He even asked if he could help teach the boys something when he got home from work. (Let's hear a collective "Ahhhh"). It's so nice to have such a supportive husband.
The conference was TERRIFIC! The more I get in to homeschooling the more I really love it, and the more I'm glad we've decided to do this in our family. Later I'll post my impressions (since this is the way I journal), but I'm really tired, so I'll have to do that tomorrow.
new collar $10.49
new Rabies tag $5
Dock Dogs registration $20
water toy to jump after $5
3rd place medal ...priceless
Rocket was 3rd in his amateur division (out of 5 dogs:) but it was fun, and the boys have been taking turns wearing the medal around their necks since Friday. (Sorry, no pictures. camera is out of batteries).
Rocket jumped 13 feet. A dog there jumped 26 feet (he's 2nd or 3rd world champion) and the world record is 28 feet. It was fun seeing the dogs flying through the air. The dogs (even Rocket) all loved it. While they were waiting for their turns they would whine and prance around, and when it was their turn they would RUN up the steps. We were the only locals. All the other dogs had come from Las Vegas and other states. When Alex and Nathan are 7, they can be the dog handler and throw the ball. We just have to wait until it comes back to Utah!
_______________________________________________
Today Todd and I went to a homeschooling conference in Salt Lake all day and Todd's brother and his wife watched all 3 kids. Katie took a bottle and was happy! Todd made it known that he was going only because it was important to me, but he was pleasantly suprised and actually really like it! He even asked if he could help teach the boys something when he got home from work. (Let's hear a collective "Ahhhh"). It's so nice to have such a supportive husband.
The conference was TERRIFIC! The more I get in to homeschooling the more I really love it, and the more I'm glad we've decided to do this in our family. Later I'll post my impressions (since this is the way I journal), but I'm really tired, so I'll have to do that tomorrow.
Wednesday, June 3, 2009
Craft kits $6.60 each
A couple people told me they were interested in going in on some craft kits from Oriental Trading Company. I have 10 craft kits for sale for $6.60 each. They include 10 unisex crafts (links below). I had a coupon for free shipping, so it is only the actual cost of the item (divided by 12 since each craft comes with 12). Email me if you want to buy one at snuggles2901@yahoo.com
1. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/3095
2. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/5753
3. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/1403
4. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/3123
5. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/5227
6. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/9197
7. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/60019
8. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/6375
9. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/6566
10. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/2509
1. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/3095
2. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/5753
3. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/1403
4. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/3123
5. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/5227
6. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/9197
7. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/60019
8. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/6375
9. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=57/6566
10. http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?requestURI=processProductsCatalog&sku=48/2509
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